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1. From Anne B’s dependency grammar trees post to FI
2. Let’s talk about a different way
3. You can find more stuff which is similar or related and work on that.
4. Assuming you’re an adult, there are some things you’re already good at judging.
5. There are some areas where you’re confident, competent, skilled, etc.
   1. attempt 1
   2. Differences with Anne’s tree
   3. ‘in which’ variant: there are some areas in which you’re confident, …
   4. Attempt 2
6. More precisely, if n ever fails the Fermat test, we can be certain that n is not prime.

From Anne B’s dependency grammar trees post to FI

Let’s talk about a different way

(let :: verb
    us :: pronoun
    (talk :: verb
        (about :: preposition
            (way :: noun
                a :: det
                different :: adj
            ))))

(let :: v
    ([you])
    (talk us (about (way a different)))
)

You can find more stuff which is similar or related and work on that.

(and :: conj
    (find :: verb
        you :: pronoun
        can :: verb  -- helper verb, need to revisit 
        (stuff :: noun
            more :: adj)
        (is :: verb
            which :: pronoun
            or :: conj
                similar :: adj
                related :: adj))
    (work :: verb
        (on :: prep
            that :: n))

– note from Anne B’s trees: denote implied words – ‘realtive pronoun’ – conjunction role

Assuming you’re an adult, there are some things you’re already good at judging.

(assuming :: subordinating conjunction
    (are :: verb
        there :: adverb
        (things :: noun
            some :: determiner
            (are :: verb
                you :: pronoun
                already :: adverb
                (good :: noun
                    (at :: preposition
                        judging :: gerund)
                )
            ) :: adjective clause
        )
    )
    (are :: verb
        you :: pronoun
        (adult :: noun
            an :: determiner)
    )
)

• ‘good::adj at::prep judging::gerund’ - can ‘good at’ be a preposition?
  • ‘she speaks good English’ -> good is an adj on English
  • wait, good modifies ‘at judging’ which acts as NP. Correction: preposition phrases act as adj or adv.
  • in ‘dark red apple’: ‘dark’ is an adverb on ‘red’, so any adj can be an adv when modifying another adj.
  • ‘She is good with horses’: ‘good with’ is a prepositional phrase on ‘is’; similar meaning to ‘she handles horses well’, ‘well’ is adverb modifying ‘handles’
  • idea: good is a noun (you are already good), and ‘at judging’ is an adj prep phrase governing ‘good’
  • you::pronoun are::v already::adv good::n at::prep judging::gerund
    • this clause is then used as an adjective (googled ‘clause as an adjective’ and apparently adjective clauses are a thing)
    • problem: ‘you are already skilled at judging’ – skilled is an adj.
    • can adjective prepositional phrases modify other adjectives? if so they act as an adverb, but no mention of that in /grammar, is it important?
  • could treat ‘good at’ as a preposition
• how do you tie in ‘assuming you’re an adult’? prepositional phrase? modifies the rest of the sentence.
• ‘there are some things’ - no noun before verb
• // opened up thread on FIGG
• // ET mentions assuming being root
• ‘assuming’ could be replaced with ‘if’ => conjunction
• should have googled assuming - it’s a conj
• check against Anne’s tree: looks good!!!

There are some areas where you’re confident, competent, skilled, etc.

attempt 1

(are :: verb, linking
    there :: adverb
    (areas :: noun
        some :: adjective)
    ([are] :: aux verb, linking
        [you] :: pronoun
        confident :: adj
        competent :: adj
        skilled :: adj
        etc :: adverb
        which :: adverb
    )
)

Differences with Anne’s tree

• Anne has ‘where’ under ‘areas’, but ‘where’ is an adverb? (not an adjective; is “where you’re …” an adverb phrase?)
• “where you’re …” refers to the areas, so should be under that
• verbs are not children of nouns
• areas is linked to the properties “confident, …” via where
• ‘where’ feels more like a proposition
• we could replace ‘where’ with ‘wherein’ and meaning is preserved (wherein is an adverb, but means ‘in which’; a preposition and pronoun/determiner)

‘in which’ variant: there are some areas in which you’re confident, …

(are :: verb, linking
    there :: adverb
    (areas :: noun
        some :: adjective
        (in :: preposition
            which :: determiner ['areas']
            ([are] :: verb, linking
                [you] :: pronoun
                confident :: adj
                competent :: adj
                skilled :: adj
                etc :: adverb
            ) :: adjective clause
        )
    )
)

This matches Anne’s structure, i.e.:

(are :: verb, linking
    there :: adverb
    (areas :: noun
        some :: adjective
        (where :: adverb???
            ([are] :: verb, linking
                [you] :: pronoun
                confident :: adj
                competent :: adj
                skilled :: adj
                etc :: adverb
            ) :: adjective clause
        )
    )
)

Attempt 2

(are :: verb, linking
    there :: adverb
    (areas :: noun
        some :: adjective
        ([are] :: verb, linking
            [you] :: pronoun
            where :: adverb
            confident :: adj
            competent :: adj
            skilled :: adj
            etc :: adverb
        ) :: adjective clause
    )
)

• can an adverb take an object/compliment?
• Why are the called the same thing as adverbs that don’t take one?
• idea: where is on second ‘are’, which transforms ‘you are confident, …’ into an adjective clause
  • what was it before that? noun clause? can you have a clause/phrase without a type (a type being noun, verb, adjective, adverb, etc)

More precisely, if n ever fails the Fermat test, we can be certain that n is not prime.

discussed in the post [FI] [grammar] Grammar analysis: More precisely, if n ever fails the Fermat test, we can be certain that n is not prime.

if
    can :: aux v
        we :: pronoun
        be :: v
            certain :: n
                that :: pronoun
                    is :: v (linking)
                        n :: noun, subject
                        not :: adverb
                        prime :: adjective, complement
    fails :: verb
        n :: noun
        ever :: adverb
        Fermat test :: noun
            the :: determiner
    precisely :: adverb, modifying the rest of the sentence
        more :: adverb

questions:

• the if conjunction is split; we could rewrite it “we can be certain that n is not prime if n ever fails the fermat test”, so it sounds like “we can be certain … not prime” is the coordinating clause. should we put that first in the tree even though the sentence orders it the other way?

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